Comment by BlueEyesBrittany on June 1, 2012 at 12:43am

I really l liked your video ... and i share your views..... i was raised a catholic and converted to mormonism though i never was very active...... but i will never be part of the mormon church as a full member though i love their choir and a few other things.... the mormon church puts too much burden on what it is to be a christian when being a follower of christ is much more simple than doing all the things required in the mormon church.... plus their polygamous  past is really horrific

Comment by La Vonne on June 1, 2012 at 6:55am

Thank you Brittany! Where do live and attend church? 

Keep in touch!

Lavonne@yourkingdominheritance.com

Comment by BlueEyesBrittany on June 1, 2012 at 11:54am

Actually i live in Paris and for some time i was attending a mormon ward in the "Marais" but after reading about the polygamy past, blood atonement and a few other things .... i am not sure i should trust a church that instead of preaching the true Christian gospel, supports polygamy, blood atonement and some other no so savory doctrine.

This said, i have met some very nice people at the church and it breaks my heart to know deep inside that i will never adhere to the beliefs of the mormon church and will always be scared that they might revalidate those teachings.

I know they will be hurt by my decision not to come, but i have been hurt by mormons before and i am apalled at what people like Jeff Warren and his kind do to    women in the name of Joseph Smith and co.

So i prefer to keep my distance....

Maybe one day with new revelations, the church will be rid of the bad things or more extreme positions of their religion and will become a church that people who still want a healthy and moral life with good wholesome and safe community will want to be part.

However, i dont think it has arrived at this stage yet ....

Plus i dont like their only true church stance ....

Christianity is far more than a church ... it is beliefs, living one's life a certain way and believing in good values.

Too bad you don't live in France because i would have liked to meet you ...

I still think there are a lot of good things in the mormon church .. not everything is bad

Comment by La Vonne on June 1, 2012 at 11:27pm

I love Paris! Sacre Coeur is one of my favorite churches there, so pretty. We really aren't that far apart. With the internet I stay more closely connected to some friends there than in my own town! 

You are right about Christianity being more than a church. We are the church where ever we go. I understand there are some good qualities in the Mormon Church and this is what keeps people coming back. The problem is that darkness can mask itself as light. Mixing judgment and rules with Grace is a deadly mixture. Often people do not know how to give Grace because they have not yet experienced it. The Mormon Church does a lot of damage to the heart and soul. I would like to see it completely eradicated and for God's true kingdom of love and grace fill this earth. 

I would like to send you a chapter or two from my book Loved into the Light. I think you would really enjoy it. 

Send me an email and I will send it to you.

God Bless,

La Vonne

lavonne@yourkingdominheritance.com

Comment by DoctorDahesh on June 2, 2012 at 10:22pm

Can a Christian, who is saved, commit murder?

Adultery?

Fornication?

Homosexuality?

Lie?

Steal?

Rape?

and still be saved?

If your answer is: "A Christian would not do any of those things" my follow-up question is:

Can you provide me with a LIST of what sins Christians can do and what

sins Christians would never do?

Appreciate it!

Comment by BlueEyesBrittany on June 3, 2012 at 1:32am

As christians we are not supposed to do any of the things you mention .... rape, stealing fornication and adultery being the worse.

As humans, and since we have such an urge to be loved, we sometimes have relationships with people outside of marriage... it is our human nature.. as  long as it consensual and safe and you are not married ... i would not condemn those as bas as adultery and certainly not rape .... though the ideal situation is to find a good husband or wife to spend your life with ......

But if we have made serous mistakes we can always  change our ways and return to a more righteous life.

If a christian commits rape..... i fond this one of the most horrible sin and crimes ..

I was victim of attemps myself .... so i know how horrible it is to a person..... to this day i am scared of men and will always be .... and i have been harassed by men all my life too .... so i know how it feels

That's why i am better off single and for many other reasons too.

The ideal situation of course is to find a husband or wife early in your life that you love and are loved by, get along with so you can have a family and stay in a committed faithful responsible and caring marriage.... this is the best christian love you can have .

I myself

Comment by DoctorDahesh on June 3, 2012 at 2:45am

Sorry hon, but that didn't answer my questions. In other words, I've been told by Evangelicals that Jesus pays for all your sins, past and future. So, what sins can I commit as a Christian and still be saved? Some? None? All? No Evangelical has been able to answer that question, and I asked them since 1979. That is because, if they say "all sins" then a Christian can murder, rape, child-rape, but if they say "some sins" then I ask what they are, and they can't tell me, and if they say "no sins" then that would mean a Christian must be sinless after saved. In all three cases.....the theology just doesn't work. That is why they change the subject, or answer questions I didn't ask. In Daheshism, we pay for our sins on our Day of Judgment; which is our next incarnation. Makes alot more sense to me.

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P.S. Every single Mormon woman I dated, except for two (who were so fat and ugly no man dated them but me), told me that every single Mormon guy they ever dated, EXCEPT FOR ME, asked them for sex or tried to force sex out of them. Every;....single...one. By their fruits ye shall know them.

Comment by BlueEyesBrittany on June 3, 2012 at 7:48am

I did reply in a certain way. I am origianlly a catholic and though i converted to mormonism never was really active so am not informed of all their beliefs

All i know is that as a christian you are supposed to live the most righteous way possible and if you fail to do this, not because you want to get away with whatever you do, but as part of our human nature and the difficulty of living, you have the opportunity to repent, change your ways and strive the best you can to live the christian life.

So the deal is : we are not supposed to make mistakes but if we do, we still have a way to be forgiven and repent..... so being a christian means that we have to do our best efforts to follow the christian values and way of living .... and are offered an opportunity to repent and turn our lives around if we make mistakes.

Hope you understand now the concept.

Men all around the world offer sex to women especiall when they are young and pretty ....... and my view is women should say no .... and never date that kind of men .... because they dont respect them ..but is a worldwide phenomenon

Comment by La Vonne on June 3, 2012 at 10:32am

The problem with this discussion is it lies outside of oneself. Punishment and consequences for the hurtful actions  people take are a must. The real focus needs to be on our own relationship with God. He will guide and direct you. If you are truly listening to Him and following Him, your heart WILL change. This is how we know if others are truly following Him, by their fruits. As humans this is our only way of judging. God on the other hand knows the heart, He convicts, and when they turn from their evil ways He forgives. 

Comment by DoctorDahesh on June 3, 2012 at 1:55pm

La Vonne and Blue Eyes. Neither of you have answered my questions which are:

1.  Can a "SAVED" person commit major sins such as murder, fornication, adultery, and homosexuality?

2. Provide a list with what "sins" that a SAVED person can commit and still be saved.

Those are my questions.

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