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Today I will be interviewing:
La Vonne Earl, Author of "Loved into the Light, Shining God's Light on Mormonism." La Vonne was a convert to the LDS church, sh...
I really l liked your video ... and i share your views..... i was raised a catholic and converted to mormonism though i never was very active...... but i will never be part of the mormon church as a full member though i love their choir and a few other things.... the mormon church puts too much burden on what it is to be a christian when being a follower of christ is much more simple than doing all the things required in the mormon church.... plus their polygamous past is really horrific
Thank you Brittany! Where do live and attend church?
Keep in touch!
Actually i live in Paris and for some time i was attending a mormon ward in the "Marais" but after reading about the polygamy past, blood atonement and a few other things .... i am not sure i should trust a church that instead of preaching the true Christian gospel, supports polygamy, blood atonement and some other no so savory doctrine.
This said, i have met some very nice people at the church and it breaks my heart to know deep inside that i will never adhere to the beliefs of the mormon church and will always be scared that they might revalidate those teachings.
I know they will be hurt by my decision not to come, but i have been hurt by mormons before and i am apalled at what people like Jeff Warren and his kind do to women in the name of Joseph Smith and co.
So i prefer to keep my distance....
Maybe one day with new revelations, the church will be rid of the bad things or more extreme positions of their religion and will become a church that people who still want a healthy and moral life with good wholesome and safe community will want to be part.
However, i dont think it has arrived at this stage yet ....
Plus i dont like their only true church stance ....
Christianity is far more than a church ... it is beliefs, living one's life a certain way and believing in good values.
Too bad you don't live in France because i would have liked to meet you ...
I still think there are a lot of good things in the mormon church .. not everything is bad
I love Paris! Sacre Coeur is one of my favorite churches there, so pretty. We really aren't that far apart. With the internet I stay more closely connected to some friends there than in my own town!
You are right about Christianity being more than a church. We are the church where ever we go. I understand there are some good qualities in the Mormon Church and this is what keeps people coming back. The problem is that darkness can mask itself as light. Mixing judgment and rules with Grace is a deadly mixture. Often people do not know how to give Grace because they have not yet experienced it. The Mormon Church does a lot of damage to the heart and soul. I would like to see it completely eradicated and for God's true kingdom of love and grace fill this earth.
I would like to send you a chapter or two from my book Loved into the Light. I think you would really enjoy it.
Send me an email and I will send it to you.
As christians we are not supposed to do any of the things you mention .... rape, stealing fornication and adultery being the worse.
As humans, and since we have such an urge to be loved, we sometimes have relationships with people outside of marriage... it is our human nature.. as long as it consensual and safe and you are not married ... i would not condemn those as bas as adultery and certainly not rape .... though the ideal situation is to find a good husband or wife to spend your life with ......
But if we have made serous mistakes we can always change our ways and return to a more righteous life.
If a christian commits rape..... i fond this one of the most horrible sin and crimes ..
I was victim of attemps myself .... so i know how horrible it is to a person..... to this day i am scared of men and will always be .... and i have been harassed by men all my life too .... so i know how it feels
That's why i am better off single and for many other reasons too.
The ideal situation of course is to find a husband or wife early in your life that you love and are loved by, get along with so you can have a family and stay in a committed faithful responsible and caring marriage.... this is the best christian love you can have .
I did reply in a certain way. I am origianlly a catholic and though i converted to mormonism never was really active so am not informed of all their beliefs
All i know is that as a christian you are supposed to live the most righteous way possible and if you fail to do this, not because you want to get away with whatever you do, but as part of our human nature and the difficulty of living, you have the opportunity to repent, change your ways and strive the best you can to live the christian life.
So the deal is : we are not supposed to make mistakes but if we do, we still have a way to be forgiven and repent..... so being a christian means that we have to do our best efforts to follow the christian values and way of living .... and are offered an opportunity to repent and turn our lives around if we make mistakes.
Hope you understand now the concept.
Men all around the world offer sex to women especiall when they are young and pretty ....... and my view is women should say no .... and never date that kind of men .... because they dont respect them ..but is a worldwide phenomenon
The problem with this discussion is it lies outside of oneself. Punishment and consequences for the hurtful actions people take are a must. The real focus needs to be on our own relationship with God. He will guide and direct you. If you are truly listening to Him and following Him, your heart WILL change. This is how we know if others are truly following Him, by their fruits. As humans this is our only way of judging. God on the other hand knows the heart, He convicts, and when they turn from their evil ways He forgives.
A saved person is only saved as long as he keeps the commandments. If one has his call and election made sure than it is presumed by man that God knows that person so well that God knows that they will never break any of the commandments, so therefore they will not and are saved, Just saying one is saved does not make him saved for if he breaks a commandment he is not saved . The Christian doctrine that Jesus has paid for all sins is faulty unless one takes the view that Jesus has paid for all sins that have been repented of or can be repented of, as serious sins in some belief systems not be forgiven unless it is God the told you to cut off Labins head. There fore the sins that are forgiven are those that society allows to be forgiven usually by means of a fine , jail time or execution.
Being saved is a belief. If you belief you are saved by the asking of Jesus Christ to be Lord and master, then you are saved by His Grace. Our secular word sees only what man can see. God sees the heart. The answers regarding what sins can and cannot be forgiven is one that you need to turn to God for. He will speak directly to you, convict you of where you are wrong, and forgive you of Anything you have done. Earthly punishment is of course different and necessarily so. Bottom line, God loves you and desires to restore you! Live in that promise.
Agreed. Being saved is a belief. …’’faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen’’ Things hope for, not things obtained or earned or achieved. Things we hope will come to pass, for as they come to pass, for after they become reality there is no need for faith. We need faith to help us do all we can to fulfill our ambitions. But sometimes our ambitions are out of reach even with help. Maybe that is why some believe in obtaining the unattainable from an unseen, imaginable source via emotion is so appealing. Faith can mask reality by giving hope where there is none. Ever watch American Idol? The trouble with having faith in an unproven being that is conceived differently by thousands of religions is that we will never know of its reality until we are dead and at that time we become nonexistence and can nether greave or rejoice. Meanwhile during this life we miss opportunities as we blindly allow our emotions to follow a false leader, ancient writing with no confirming physical support, or allow our guilt to rule and determine your future. Unchecked emotions can be destructive.Thank you for stimulating my mind to use critical thinking. I know you disagree, and you may, but it gives me things to ponder and analyze.
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