Priest says Hell is an invention of the church to control people with fear

John Shelby Spong

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Comment by Idaho Spud on August 22, 2011 at 7:02am

I like his statement: "The church doesn't like for people to grow up.  Because you can't control grown-ups."

Comment by Don on August 22, 2011 at 7:46am

This has been my view for decades.  The old doddering bobble heads in Salt Lake just convinced me further of it.


I loe Jesus, its his damned self centered asshole followers that try to tell you what the hell to do that just drives me up the damned tree. :)  They are inspired and from the true Church.  Well, they are nit unless they are wearing the true sock.  I had this crap revealed to me as I was drinking a glass of milk yesterday.  So nonsequitur.


Don, in Vegas and you aint:)




Comment by Turning point on August 22, 2011 at 1:05pm
Great post...thank you
Comment by Don on August 22, 2011 at 4:36pm

He is a Priest of the Church of England, or something else. 

It is also fair to say that Christ dissapeared after three days because they put people underground then in that time, the Roman Centurions may have come to get his cadaver to stop a new cult of followers (Christians) from having a rallying point.  That did not work, huh :)  They may have dumped his boy in the dump and the dogs ate him.  This is a possibility that is contrary to my beliefs, but it is out there.  We had Zeus, Jupiter, the Gods in wood (knock on wood) and so many more.  It is entirely possible that the modern view that is held of Christ and the theology of Christianity is an organised superstition that just got out of hand.  We still pray to people long dead, to things we cannot see and have to believe in anyhow.

  The purpose of faith is to give us hope for tomorrow, a happier life, a look and belief in something better.  I personally believe in Christ, God, the Saints and my Catholic faith.  However, I can think and weigh the right hand against the left hand all the time. :)   I do have one consistent thing in my life...the disdain for the doddering altzheimer dudes in Salt Lake that bear witness of themselves.  What a scam.


Religion is supposed to lift us to assist us in being a better person.  Instead we are told to give our 10%, OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO THEM AND WE WILL BE BLESSED.  i HAVE YET TO SEE OR MEET ONE PERSON THAT HAD ONE SINGLE BLESSING FALL FROM THE SKY BECAUSE THEY WENT ON A MISSION.   (Sorry, caps key stuck) .  What happened would have happened and the hand of God or old farts in Salt Lake that use people had nothing to do with it.  Everything that happens to people before or after or during a Mission happens because they will it and they make it happen through ork.  Salt Lake gives the credit or blame to God so they can say "look, see the blessing we spoke of", or "look, we told you you would not be blessed".  Both are manipulated outcomes.

  Sorry, I have had TOTO pull back the curtain and I have seen who and what the "Great and PowerfulOz" really is.  It is not the smoke and fire and the face on a screen, but people that are pulling levers and gears for those that are not smart enough to see what is really going om.  ...and all it takes to topple them and their game is a single simple dog to pull the curtain back.  Watch the link please.




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