I was having a conversation with a TBM friend recently. We were talking about the church. He mentioned to me that his ward is giving out money to people who are not members of the church. He also said he is in the "Bishopric" and he knows this for a fact, because he is there late at night, on Sundays giving out money. I found this hard to believe, because I have had experiences where I have tried to get help from friends who are not members of the church. The Bishop told m they have to be members of the church to receive help from the church. I am also aware of, through friends who have been Bishop's that their wards where told not to give to non-members and that they need to try to keep the ward welfare numbers down. However, they can give vouchers for food from the cannery. Does anyone know if the policies have changed in the church? Or is my friend, lying for the Lard?

Cheers!

Jeannie

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Comment by MikeUtah on January 6, 2011 at 1:01pm
That's news to my ears.  I haven't heard nor seen this happening in any of the wards I've been in.  It seems the church mostly only helps itself unless a news camera and crew is near by.
Comment by Jean Bodie on January 8, 2011 at 12:45pm
Well they don't give anything to the truly hungry MEMBERS in the wards in Africa, so if they are doling it out to non-members in the US that just adds to my theory that they don't give a shit about anyone outside of God's land.
Comment by Casey Roberts on January 12, 2011 at 12:31pm

It's at the discretion of the Bishop really....   Just had a conversation with a Bishop last week on this topic.  He gives food orders to less active / non-members once and asks them to come to church.  If they don't show up... no more 'charity'.  He said it was a "Test".

 

Guess that's what the scriptures say.  Charity never faileth... unless they don't attend Sunday meetings.

Comment by Jeannie on January 16, 2011 at 4:43pm

That is interesting. Thanks for talking to a Bishop. Now that is the church I know, nothing for free. I just love the articles in the Deseret News and on KSL that always talk about how much the church is giving to other countries for disasters. It is all about public relations. The better we look the more people will want to join.

Comment by Dan on January 28, 2011 at 7:48am
It depends onthe bishop and the instructions given by the SP.Someone asaid I was the bisho[ for all the people who lived in my ward not just the members. Makes sense if I am too help them spiritual then I must help them with their worldly concerns. Feed them milk then the gosple. I took that advice serioously.I believe most bishops would not give a lot of assistance to non members. Being an inter city bishop I got more calls for the public than most. I gave them assistance when possible but also expected them to do some service if possible such as putting hours in at the stroe house. On the whole they were more productuctive and more agreeable than the members that got assistance. Those that paid tithing felt that they had already paid for the help like insurance. Well they did but the church does not see it that way. I know of one bishop that was released, and one of his issues is that when it came to children he refused to hold back relief. There was also 1 bishop in the stake that was assigned to assist any transient members who came to the stake. There was one couple that came for help to get back home to the western US. They got help and 2 weeks later the transient bishop got a call from the Yukon ( next to Alaska) from a branch president to check on the same couple looking for help to get back home. hope this gives you a bit more insite.
Comment by Dan on January 28, 2011 at 8:05am

Here is another story. When I was on my mission in England, a new member came to the branch president after a couple of months and asked when his church welfare cheque would come, as he has not received one yet. The missionary that baptized push the church welfare system and told the family that the church would help them with a monthly cheque.

Comment by Jeannie on January 28, 2011 at 5:02pm
That is really interesting, Dan. You know we had missionaries promise people a lot of things to get them baptized, usually the people would stop coming fairly quickly. I thought it was sad.  I think it happens when the mission focuses on numbers not people. I was told that the General Authorities are ok with giving food orders, but, not giving money. It is good to know it depends on the local leadership. Enjoyed everyones comments.

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