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I feel a sense of urgency and complete impotent powerlessness as we near election time. I am not a resident of California, but I have many friends who live there, particularly a male couple who have been together for 6 years and who would like to marry. I signed a petition along with almost 17,000 other people to be presented to Thomas Monson. Here was the response.

Marriage is not a religious ceremony. Marriage is a legal contract. But more than that, it's a right--a show of commitment that every person in America ought to have. What in the holyfuck is the Mormon Church doing by throwing hundreds of thousands of dollars at the campaign to back Proposition 8?

I would like to cite the following examples and challenge the Mormon Church to address these concerns (as if they'd give me the time of day):

" 11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."


The Church 'allows' others to worship how, where or what they may. Why thank you so much. I didn't realize that I needed their permission. So, they allow men to worship God according to the dictates of their conscience; why doesn't that extend to allowing them to love according to the dictates of their own conscience?

"12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law."

This sounds to me as though the church is subject to laws, not in the business of making them. The CA State Supreme Court has ruled; why does the LDS Church not acquiesce to that ruling?

"13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things."

To ALL men? Not just the hetrosexual ones, but ALL men? How is the Mormon Church being benevolent at this juncture? How are they being honest? They are lying to the residents of California and ignoring pleas to stop their active campaigning; they are blackmailing the members of their church; they are blackmailing business owners by threatening to publish their names in a Coalition release so that "Traditional Marriage" proponents will boycott their businesses. The LDS Church is attempting to block rights--inalienable rights--of other human beings.

Funny, Church of JESUS CHRIST of LDS, I don't recall Jesus ever mentioning homosexuality as being a sin. I don't recall him throwing out homosexuals from a temple--he threw out the money changers, though didn't he? And that's what you all are--money changers; back-water, back-alley, small minded-infantile fear mongers who believe that somehow your marriages are somehow threatened by two people who you don't even fucking KNOW, committing their lives to one another.

Well, let me tell you what threatenes your marriage, men and women of Mormondom--your husbands whacking off to porn in the basement and lying about it because it's a "sin" to look at porn; your stake president getting blow jobs from hookers off of State street because you won't put out due to your nylon jammie-holes being sewn shut along with your legs. Your Scout Leader fondling your sons because he's been raised and corrupted by a religion that never allowed him a healthy sexuality when he was an adolescent. Your gay spouse sneaking off at night to be with other men or women because they aren't allowed to be who theyr truly are.

And the biggest threat of all? The Truth with a capital "T"--it will find you, in this life or the next--it will find you. And you will discover that the biggest threat to your marriage of all was your own vapid, closed minded stupidity. Because if you believe you're headed to 'heaven' with all of that fear, hatred and bigotry in your heart THINK AGAIN.

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Tags: 8, Church, Mormon, Prop, off, pissed

Comment by Jon on November 1, 2008 at 6:26am
Amen!
Comment by Skepticat on November 4, 2008 at 4:47pm
Oh, my!!! LOL!!! Actually, if you go to Helium.com and put Daniel Bergman in the search, it will take you to a very legal, constitutional, argument why there should be no law against gays marrying. It's clear, it follows the law and it's good! (It's also my brother-in-law and he's straight. You might also guess he's taking classes to become a paralegal. Probably should become a lawyer. But so should my husband who is grooming him. LOL!)
Comment by XLDSXY on May 7, 2009 at 3:09pm
Okay... I'm slow in piping in here ~ oh well.
Thanks for the application of the Articles of Faith!!! thought I was going nuts... Oh! I AM!

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