I am a proud member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. And this website is a hurtful thing to everyone who believes in The Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, all of the former Prophets, and most of all people who believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave His life for all of us, including all of the members on this website. All of the members on this website know deep down that this is the true church. You know it. And no matter what you do, say, or post, out Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ will love you no matter what.

John 3:16-

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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Comment by pollypinks on April 4, 2011 at 6:02am
For Proud Mormon:  One question.  What's your interpretation of the second commandment?  Are you able to display that here?
Comment by pollypinks on April 4, 2011 at 6:05am
Aw yes, The Journal of Discourses, or, Brigham's Destroying Angel.  But, brother Brigham did indeed preach that any races that intermarried should be killed.  Now that was some prophecy!
Comment by pollypinks on April 4, 2011 at 6:31am
Mormons have been brainwashed into believing the KJV is the only correct version of the bible to read, when in fact, it's been re-translated more than 500 times since 1611.  King James took the Latin version of the bible to translate, and Rome was notorious for misinterpreting the greek and hebrew contexts of much of the original text.  So once Rome got a hold of it, you got your eternal torment, hellfire and damnation, and all sorts of burning fun things to do to each other during the Reformation.  Any true believer who's read more than two versions of this book will realize it's not inerrant.
Comment by pollypinks on April 4, 2011 at 6:36am
I think Joseph believed himself because he was a narcissist, probably borderline personality disorder, and a raging sex addict to boot.  So when you have a mentally ill person running the show, he's gonna believe it.  And we know from research that these people can have high I.Q's, can be charismatic, and can convince anybody of just about anything.  My problem is with the general authorities, because they've got so much buried evidence that no one knows about, they really must question.  Why else would they have offered Mark Hoffman so much money for a letter about a fish, for crying out loud?  And didn't they pay him hundreds of thousands for other documents as well, that no one was to ever see?
Comment by gnosticeye on April 4, 2011 at 8:58am

ok ok... so this is straining at a gnat... and I ask for your forgiveness already....  but vaguely I remember from Hebrew classes while living in Jerusalem...many a year ago....  elohim is plural for most likely El.  Elohim is plural form for either males or mixed gender (male and female) reference.  In other words, it could refer to male/female gods or male gods...  if you put the "ote" on the end it would signify female gods...  so to make a hebrew nown plural male you would add "im" to the ending and it could refer to male plural or male/female plural.  

I used to find solace in that knowledge because as a tbm I always thought it meant Mormons were special because we in fact did believe in a plural form of diety as in heavenly father/mother gods.  However I think it would be fair to say I was making the facts fit my belief.  


Boker Tov everyone....

Comment by gnosticeye on April 4, 2011 at 8:59am
did i really spell noun as nown.... where's my coffee?
Comment by pollypinks on April 4, 2011 at 9:48am
I think whether a bishop decides to try to influence someone into staying is completely personal.  Once the bishop got my daughter's letter, somebody from the ward called her, but she's totally un-emotional about the whole thing and was able to take care of the matter very quickly.  When I sent my letter, I don't know, maybe 18 years ago, I got a letter back telling me my salvation was ruined.  But, nobody called me.  I didn't save it, nor did I make a copy of my letter.  I just didn't give a shit anymore.  My son has never sent a letter in.  And every so often the home teachers catch up with him.  The last time they did he was smoking a joint, and invited them in.  I think they were horrified when they got home and realized how they smelled.
Comment by pollypinks on April 4, 2011 at 3:30pm
It's kind of like telling a Pentocostal they shouldn't enjoy jumping and clapping their hands.  We are here because we enjoy having relationships with those with likeminded ideals.  Mormons go to church and mormon sites for the same reason.  It's not a reason to get all offended about, if one's needs are being met.
Comment by theduchess on April 5, 2011 at 12:02am

This website is not intended to hurt the church or anyone in it. It is not intended for members of the church at all. It is a safe place for those of us who have been hurt BY the church to express our concerns and our pain. And you coming in here and telling us that's wrong is kind of an insult to what many of us have been through. I'm not saying your religion is all evil and I understand that it works for a lot of people and that's great. But the arrogance of coming in here and telling me that I know deep down that it's true - that really gets under my skin and you must understand why. 


I would never presume to tell you, "you know deep down that the church isn't true." I understand that you believe it whole-heartedly and respect your right to do so. 


Let me be clear. There is no part of me that believes that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the One True Church. I consider myself a spiritual person, and I have found so much more spiritual fulfillment outside the church. From a logical standpoint, from a spiritual standpoint, from an emotional standpoint, NOT BEING MORMON IS BETTER FOR ME.


My husband was emotionally abusive when we were members. The patriarchal hierarchy of the church plus the black and white world view encouraged his worst personality traits. Since leaving he has become a more LOVING, more COMPASSIONATE, more UNDERSTANDING human being because he realizes that not everyone has to see the world the way he does. Do you understand that? He has had a complete transformation for the better - by NOT BEING Mormon. For him, he finds peace in saying, I don't have all the answers and that's ok.


I love my mormon friends and family with all my heart and I have never done anything to intentionally hurt a single one of them. And I am grateful that I have been brave enough to look outside the way I was raised and find a more peaceful, more fulfilling life.

Comment by Scotmama3 on April 5, 2011 at 6:58am
I wonder why someone who is offended by the content of a particular website feels obligated to frequent that website.  This is not a group activity.  You read websites and participate on your own and could choose not to do either of these activities if you wanted.  My suggestion is that you frequent websites that make you feel good and stay away from this one.  It is unlikely that you are going to convince anyone here that yours is the right path.  We have all been there and done that and have the emotional scars to prove it.


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