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love knowledge, love truth, love life
Interests and Hobbies:
Rock climbing, traveling, reading
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Too many tocount
Favorite Movies:
Ghandi, foreign films
Favorite activity after mormonism?
playing on sundays, relaxing on sundays, getting stuff done on sundays

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At 10:05pm on December 5, 2009, MikeUtah said…
You look good in your new outfit! I hope you have fun at your party.
At 6:56pm on November 26, 2009, Control Zee said…
Hey Wander,

Sorry - I JUST got your message here. I am using an email address I don't check that often.

If you'd like, please email me at bjolley@gmail.com. My name is Brian, btw.

Well, good for you for having a discussion with him. Good for him for being willing to grant even that. Not a given, after all. Sorry to hear that you don't think he'll ever see the light. That's a discouraging realization. Perhaps you've planted some seeds. It takes time to be willing to face these realities after all. I agree with your idea to keep hoping. If he sees the founders as messed up, perhaps something in church will trigger a response and he'll see through the BS.

The church is so blatantly culty. I can't BELIEVE I bought it for so long. Yuck. The rationalization is familiar, though. You grant the early leaders some leeway to be imperfect (well, the word of wisdom wasn't around when joseph was a wild, drunk teenager) (well, we don't understand exactly how polygamy worked, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.) (Well, I've had good feelings before, and I'll count on that and wait for an explanation after I die.)

I think it's like a movie where you're willing to suspend disbelief of plot holes so you can enjoy the good parts of the plot. Rejecting the premise means ruining the movie, right? And that's hard when it's a beloved movie.

He's sure been a good sport about what you do, though. You gonna stick it out together?


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How's it going? Just wanted to say how I enjoyed talking to you. I wish you all the best with your wife. I just had a BIG discussion with my husband. I don't think he'll ever see the light (and I don't want to push it) but I keep hoping. ... I don't understand. What do you think?

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