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I glanced over the sight.  It's religion without the god; truly an atheistic religion in the literal since.

The idea is attractive.  One of the things I and, it seems, other exmos miss is the structure the church gave their lives.  Ready-made friends, activities, heritage and a community dedicated to being happy and cheerful above all else.  And I don't say that last part in derision, it's part of their 13 Articles of Reason: "We seek to rejoice in whatever conditions we find ourselves in.  We believe we can find meaning in times of suffering in life and that we can transcend and overcome our suffering through meditation and learning to have compassion with ourselves and others.".  They also say much about celebrating the Mormon heritage, culture and history.

This would surely feel like coming home to a raised-in-the-church atheist.

But I tend to distrust heavily structured organizations since I left the church.  Not that there's inherently anything wrong with them but it's too easy to get caught up in groupthink.

Also, you'll notice that they have a donate button on their pages and plans to start wards wherever there's interest and even build temples.  Can you say tithing... as pressured by groupthink?

This idea is ridiculous! Join the humanism movement, let go of your old Mormon hang ups. It is sounding like they are all too eager to place themselves in the new 12 apostles and first presidency positions of power and authoritarian control. That doesn't sound democratic at all. By asking what do people need? The church(es) have capitalized on providing the emotional support, practical support and companionship that is built into every persons basic human needs. Many people join churches for that very reason, especially the Mormons who can fill up anyone's calendar quickly with church social events and with everyone trained to be nice and welcoming (also powers of persuasion). The social isolation that occurs when a person leaves their religion can be intense. I imagine more so if you live in Utah and realize the mormon church is full of it but every single person you know is buying into it (literally). I agree with Greta Christina in her book "Coming Out Atheist" who said : "there is a huge need to create [secular] communities in the flesh as well as online, that provide what religions have come to provide: guidance and counseling, safety nets, day care, places for rituals and rites of passage, activities for families, avenues for charitable and social justice work, events that are inspiring and fun, ongoing companionship, continuity. We need to create communities that just give people basic human contact." I'm all for that, that's why I love the humanist movement but no way would I consider joining the Mormon Humanists. Why didn't Nickels ask why they aren't calling themselves the exmormon humanist?  Why can't they accept that they are in fact exmormons, not just "revised" mormons?  Is taking the band aid off that way really easier?  Maybe it will gain more converts by providing a pseudo middle ground away from mormonism by saying no we are still mormons we are just secular mormons...


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