So well said...
Mormons turn their members into self rightreous arrogant human beings ;.... plus that idea that they can become Gods is so wrong and such an open door to abusing this position of i know better than you and the rest of it ;;;
Furthermore, there is no perfection in this world. We are just trying to survive, be happy and to love and, in th process, make mistakes .... full stop ..... because we are surrounded by faulty human beings ....
The idea is to limit the damage and the hurt ....
I feel the same. Plus religions have a tendency to satanise love for women that i makes you want to stay away from them.
I feel we all try to survive, love and be loved and, in the process, make mistakes ...... because others may hurt us or because the world we live in is not that great and love such an uncertain and unreliable thing these days.
I too have been disgusted by Proposition 8 .....
Intellectually, I enjoy reading certain books on evidences of the existence of God. Currently one of my favorites is “The Ontological Argument: from St. Anselm to Contemporary Philosophers”, edited by Alvin Plantinga. And another book on Scholastic Metaphysics. There is a book by the Unification Church, called “Unification Theory”, that presents some interesting ideas about God. The view of Scholastic Metaphysics is the most satisfying for me so far.
There is also a relational type of theology. Understanding God through meditation and contemplation, through prayer (and not just Dear Lord, Amen sort of prayer) and song and music. A “Feeling” Theology as a compliment to a “Thinking” Theology.
Those are the only two I'm involved in at present. Mormonism is like an empty water glass next to a bottle of fine wine, when it comes to providing an intellectually satisfying theology. As a Mormon myself, the emotional, relational aspect of my theology, was kindergarden level in contrast to theologies with more developed methods if meditation, more profound prayers, and deeper devotional exercises.
But that's just my single opinion, so it's sure to be easily refutably and forgettable.
I think the mormon church is too sexist and extreme. In this sense i much prefer the Catholic church, even though i dont agree with the pope ban on contraception and other things. At least the mormon church supports monogamy and not polygamy as the mormon church.
Plus as a woman, i dont want to be a submissive, subservient and obedient woman ....... i dont and never will conceive love and marriage as a contract where men have all authority and women were brought it only to be their servant and sexual slaves. I neither support the idea that women's role in life should be limited to making babies ..... some women are much happier as single than as married wives ...... especially in today's world when love is so risky and unreliable.
My only conception of marriage has its foundation on love, equality in the marriage, partnership mentality, mutual care and caring .... otherwise forget it ..... because it makes life hell for women ....
On the other hand, i have been so hurt by members of my family who are catholics and hurt me badly, same with mormons, that i stay away from both religions, mormons who are so judgmental and shuns those who dont abide even more ....
So even though i have some spirituality, it does not belong to any religion in particular and is a mix of wise living and a variety of influences from religions and just common sense.
DEAR B E B,
You, IMHO, have a very logical and appropriate approach to this. You have a mind, you have a will and you have potential. Nowhere are we taught to be subserviant to anyone. Furthermore it should never be because of genetalia (male vs female) or whether some damned fool placed his hands on someones head and thinks he gaev someone something that he himself does not possess, Priesthood. IMHO, this Priesthood idea may have come from the ancient Jews placing their hands on someones head showing that they are familiar with this person enough to "authorize" them. Similar to the social function of shaking hands in front of others, to have recognition of a relationship, or an "authorization. Closer to to "Mafioso guys shaking hands and embracing" in public. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "Godly powers". Now, keep in mind that this is my own opinion and is not "against" anything. I do not give Salt Lake enough credibility in this issue to take my time to be against them on it. They are sorta like a kid running around the room with a bath towel stating that he is "Superman"...yea, wtf ever. Just stay off the damned roof.
The reason that men are the clergy comes from the practice of the Jews, the leaders were men. The men went out and hunted the Mastadons...... you can see where I am going with this. If the women had of gone out and got killed also the world would have less population now. Remember the emphasis and recognition of +Mother Mary (not worship) who gave birth to Jesus, who loved him, cleaned his "boo boos" and taught him his social morals and values. He saw social injustice, he saw meaness and fought against it. where did he get these strange ideas.... I'd say he got them from Mama. That Mama was Mary. No Mary, no Jesus or Christianity in general. He would have been a Rabbai. <I can never spell that.> Think of St. Joan of Arc. She may have been a little on the psychosis and all with the hearing of voices, who knows? But as a human, she taught people to push against real and not created or perceived bad influences. The Saints were humans, they questioned at times, the fought back and pushed standing for what was right in their minds. A great motivation for our world and lives today. Remember Saul of Tarsus? What a freakin jerk he was, then he changed to be a better person. Salt lake wants us to pray and know that we NEED them (so ~they can get ~our money), and cannot do it without them... they do tat for a selfish and self centered purpose. We could not even freely give, they stomp their foot and command us to give or reminfd us tat if we did not give we could not get a temple reccomend, no temple attendance and thus no heaven. Wait, in that algebraic equation I see X= (no tithing no heaven) =hell. If I don't give them my money I cannot go to heaven... yea, they are so full of shit.
Continue to believe in yourself and the potential within you. Find and use roll modles . Just be the great you that you are. Tell others to kiss your big toe :) Do not be a slave to anyones ideas or crap :).
Don, in Las Vegas and Memphis, TN.
It has been my personal experience that we find ourselves best in voluntary, not compelled, service to others. If it comes from our heart, if the motions of our hands in service to others, are from the heart, we are doing well. :) It even goes to smiling at others, making soft eye contact, opening the door and sharing good morning. Yes, we need the sacraments of baptism and the Stations of the Cross, we need all of these things and more. When we as stated earlier, serve in a food bank, lift Christ by our actions of love and consideration we are better for it.
Our Catholic faith lifts us, it assists us in being the best we can be at all times. I love it myself. Not everything works for everyone. But this definitely works for me. The Catholic Church is not a museum for perfect people... it is a hospital for sinners, and I am the biggest patient :).