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Permalink Reply by Bahai_Faith on May 26, 2012 at 1:33pm

Dear Blue Eyes,

I am very familiar with what the Catholic Church teaches, and with Catholic history. Many times during the history of the Catholic Church, "heretics" were killed, burned at the stake in most cases. You have other cases like the Albiginsians, who were considered to be heretics. They were non-violent. To escape death, they hid in a town containing Catholics. The Catholic townspeople refused to give up the "heretics" because they knew their fate. The military commander asked what should be done. The Catholic papal legate said: "Kill them all, let God sort them out!" This was done. The town was raised. The women raped. Then the men, women, and children burned alive while crowded in wooden houses.  Also, you have the Crusades, where there Popes said it was a holy duty to kill heretics and infidels, with forgiveness of personal sins in return. There are many, many more examples. Not just Catholic, but Protestants as well, who murdered hundreds of thousands of Anabaptists over the centuries. But THE POINT of my original post was this.....that "occultic symbols" on Mormon Temples doesn't make Mormonism "evil". The most "evil" symbol used by mankind has been the Cross; more innocent blood has been shed in the name of the Cross, than by any so-called "occultic" symbol. That was my point.

Permalink Reply by BlueEyesBrittany on May 27, 2012 at 3:50am

I am not going to call you Dear Bahai Faith,

Because i dont think you are a dear person....

I just think you are after the catholics ....... because being raised as a catholic meant having good values and not what you are describing above ...

You are just biased ..... and  the people you are describing are not representative of all christianity ....

And if you look at history see how many people have killed on all sides of the religious spectrum ...

I was proud to be a catholic and, as a matter of fact, i may return to that faith rather than anything else because of all the good values it had.

And i will never reply to you again on this subject because i think your purpose is to highlight the bad in the catholic church and ignore all the good that it has done in people's life and is still doing.

You may hold your position but i hold mine and will never change from it .

I dont know what your agenda is ... but it obviously is not a fair one.

This is my last word on it ... and truly end of the discussion.

Once again i want to let you know that i am proud of my mainstream christianity faith and i know it is a great faith with very good values. You are misrepresenting the values it supports and only highlighting the bad parts of it ..

This is the last time i take part on this board

Permalink Reply by Bahai_Faith on May 31, 2012 at 2:43pm

I'm "misrepresenting the values of catholicism"? Ok, you mean about all the priests having sex with you boys, then the Church heirarchy lying about it and hiding it for so many decades, and only "coming clean" after all the bad press? Is that the "values of Catholicism" you are talking about?

Permalink Reply by BlueEyesBrittany on May 31, 2012 at 11:50pm

As if some priests having sex represent the billion of members of the catholic church ...

the values i was taught, as billions were, were of faithful committed marriage, respect, honesty and being good people.

Once again you comments are full evidence that your agenda is to destroy the catholic church and all the good there is in it while emphasising on the bad parts;

I am not going to make any more comments to you .... because i dont want to be wasting any time with a man who is so obviously biased against a religion that has done so much good in people's life ..... like preserving families and many other things.

I wont say what i think of you .... but one thing is sure i have no time to waste with someone like you ....

END OF ALL DISCUSSIONS

Permalink Reply by mark/norcal out on February 13, 2012 at 6:16pm

I had the bright idea of learning more about church history.  After researching the Book of Abraham, I was done.

Permalink Reply by tethercarguy on February 14, 2012 at 7:12am

I've noticed that quite a bit. A fellow member's faith is floundering after learning certain things about the church. A good friend is going to help them out and in the process of researching the issue comes to find out the truth for themselves too. For myself, I had never really looked into the questionable issues because I "knew" the church was true. I didn't need to waste my time. But then one day I decided to research these issues. I "knew" I would find the church to be true. Boy was I wrong!!!   Here's a great quote from my wife's fb page.    "Don't believe everything you think."

Permalink Reply by tess on February 14, 2012 at 8:23am

Well said,  tethercarguy!

Permalink Reply by Bahai_Faith on May 25, 2012 at 9:50pm

Hinckley is the man behind Prop 8 and the other anti-gay measures, because he has a son who is bisexual

and gave him much grief in the late 1960s. Hinckley blames gay men for seducing his son

and making his son into a bisexual hypocrite. But, I would blame Mormon culture on

forcing his son to be a hypocrite (pretending to be good LDS while secretly having gay affairs), and I would blame nature and genetics on making him bi. Hinckley, of course, blamed the gays, and used the Church and Church tithing funds to "punish" them for making his son gay (or bi).

Permalink Reply by DoctorDahesh on February 15, 2012 at 8:57pm

The GOD-NUMBING HYPOCRISY of the born-in-the-Church Mormons!!!!   The Mormons themselves; how they behaved. The lying. The sex before marriage, and hiding it. The gossiping. The love of money and wealth. Worshiping the rich and despising the poor. The lying by Church leaders from Joseph Smith until Gordon B. Hinckley. By their fruits ye shall know them, and most of the fruits I saw were bad. There were exceptions of course. About 10 percent of born-in-the-Church Mormons are really nice people, basically honest and moral, but the 90%.....forget it! The children of Hell as Jesus would say. Fit for the Fire.

Permalink Reply by mike H on May 21, 2012 at 1:40pm

For me I had trouble with the BofM stories. I never got the burning in the bosom or anything like that. I was skeptical even as a missionary. The longer I was out and the more of the BofM I would read the less I would believe. Then when I got home I tried to prove it true to myself. That didnt work it just completely and totally made me lose any hope for a belief. The book of Abraham, lack of any archaeology or dna  to back up the claims. The few archaeology I was taught the church had as evidence turned out to be proven frauds. So yeah. Pres. Hinkley said when we find truth we accept it and live according to it. So there is no truth there I left it.

 

Permalink Reply by La Vonne on May 25, 2012 at 11:02pm

For me the consequences (or fruits) of following the rules and teachings of man became too apparent in my home to ignore. We were oppressed, stressed and fighting with one another as a family. I did not want to betray the Lord and so fell to my knees to ask what He would have me do. I felt peace and comfort and a direction to leave the church and just attend my local Christian community church. It has been 9 years and we are all doing amazingly well. We have peace, love, acceptance and fun! Best decision I ever made! This is a short version of my story. If you would like to hear more of my story you can find me on Youtube.

Permalink Reply by Bahai_Faith on May 31, 2012 at 2:40pm

Sounds like you went from a stressful religion (Mormonism) to a much less stressful religion (Evangelicalism). But I would not equate "getting along much better" with your family as proof a religion is true. Many Mormons say the same thing after they become Mormons.

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